Thanks, Yasha, for sharing forgotten or deliberately neglected pieces of the Holodomor tragedy of death and suffering.
Perhaps the next and certainly final research note should be about how suffering and dead Russians got left out of the Holodomor genocide story. Cheers, Igor (Jew from Odessa)
I don't recall reading the earlier piece, but this narrative seems odd:
"I wrote before about how Jews got left out of the Holodomor genocide story because their inclusion as victims of this tragedy wouldn’t fit the clean line about the famine being a (Judeo) Bolshevik plot designed to wipe out ethnic Ukrainians. "
Who is pushing this "clean line"?
You can probably go to Wikipedia (or similar "mainstream" descriptions) and read the basic facts about the Holodomor: it was a widespread USSR political project (by Stalin?) to suppress any and all dissent against the communist state by starving something like 5-10 (five to 10) million people, mostly peasants and working class people.
It would not be surprising to consistently find historical evidence that more marginalized and poverty-stricken groups and people were harder hit in various places (and that other people/groups that were seen by the communist party as loyal would have been favored to some extent).
From what I can tell, it is common knowledge by most historians that there were vicious, large scale political purges of Jews during the early Soviet era and other anti-Semitic policies (as examples of Stalin's psychopathic personality, etc.).
I have now read the previous article, and I am still mystified about how (WW2 era?) NAZI (anti-Semitic) propaganda influenced current consensus views on the history of the Holodomor.
(If you had clarified that in your even earlier articles, sorry, maybe your references need to be made more explicit?)
Are you implying that pro-Zionist "diaspora" propaganda underplayed the vast suffering of the Jewish Holodomor victims? Or some other "diaspora" phenomena?
comment excerpt:
Yasha Levine
Dec 16
... Should probably do something more in depth on this at some point. But the diaspora bit is obviously huge. That’s where it’s coming from. About the Nazi bit…. saw that Nazi propaganda flyer I found in Kiev about Stalin and the Jews starving Ukrainians?
The Iron Law of Institutions is this: “the people who control institutions care first and foremost about their power within the institution rather than the power of the institution itself. Thus, they would rather the institution ‘fail’ while they remain in power within the institution than for the institution to “succeed” if that requires them to lose power within the institution.”
Stalin was a psychopath that would do anything (including genocide of large parts of his own population) to maintain his hold on power.
His interest was not in running an effective government.
His apparent lack of loyalty to even his own relatively small ethnic group (after he had ascended to imperial power and left them behind) isn't surprising.
Nazis/fascists (along with western "liberal-capitalists" that were the natural enemies of fascists) had good reasons to fear insane soviet communism, and the fact that some of those reasons were picked up in the capitalist media in the west isn't particularly relevant as far as I can tell, but maybe you can explain how I'm wrong about that.
(I've got to log off, update software and run an errand, sorry if I don't get back to any response you might post until later.)
Thanks, Yasha, for sharing forgotten or deliberately neglected pieces of the Holodomor tragedy of death and suffering.
Perhaps the next and certainly final research note should be about how suffering and dead Russians got left out of the Holodomor genocide story. Cheers, Igor (Jew from Odessa)
I don't recall reading the earlier piece, but this narrative seems odd:
"I wrote before about how Jews got left out of the Holodomor genocide story because their inclusion as victims of this tragedy wouldn’t fit the clean line about the famine being a (Judeo) Bolshevik plot designed to wipe out ethnic Ukrainians. "
Who is pushing this "clean line"?
You can probably go to Wikipedia (or similar "mainstream" descriptions) and read the basic facts about the Holodomor: it was a widespread USSR political project (by Stalin?) to suppress any and all dissent against the communist state by starving something like 5-10 (five to 10) million people, mostly peasants and working class people.
It would not be surprising to consistently find historical evidence that more marginalized and poverty-stricken groups and people were harder hit in various places (and that other people/groups that were seen by the communist party as loyal would have been favored to some extent).
hope your family is well, happy holidays.
From what I can tell, it is common knowledge by most historians that there were vicious, large scale political purges of Jews during the early Soviet era and other anti-Semitic policies (as examples of Stalin's psychopathic personality, etc.).
I have now read the previous article, and I am still mystified about how (WW2 era?) NAZI (anti-Semitic) propaganda influenced current consensus views on the history of the Holodomor.
(If you had clarified that in your even earlier articles, sorry, maybe your references need to be made more explicit?)
Are you implying that pro-Zionist "diaspora" propaganda underplayed the vast suffering of the Jewish Holodomor victims? Or some other "diaspora" phenomena?
comment excerpt:
Yasha Levine
Dec 16
... Should probably do something more in depth on this at some point. But the diaspora bit is obviously huge. That’s where it’s coming from. About the Nazi bit…. saw that Nazi propaganda flyer I found in Kiev about Stalin and the Jews starving Ukrainians?
So the Roma lady's narrative about the starvation she saw in Ukraine during the Holodomor was a Nazi and CIA propaganda narrative?
https://medium.com/@jesse.singal/the-iron-law-of-institutions-and-the-left-333c42c246af
the Iron Law of Institutions and the left
By Freddie deBoer*
May 31, 2017
The Iron Law of Institutions is this: “the people who control institutions care first and foremost about their power within the institution rather than the power of the institution itself. Thus, they would rather the institution ‘fail’ while they remain in power within the institution than for the institution to “succeed” if that requires them to lose power within the institution.”
Stalin was a psychopath that would do anything (including genocide of large parts of his own population) to maintain his hold on power.
His interest was not in running an effective government.
His apparent lack of loyalty to even his own relatively small ethnic group (after he had ascended to imperial power and left them behind) isn't surprising.
Nazis/fascists (along with western "liberal-capitalists" that were the natural enemies of fascists) had good reasons to fear insane soviet communism, and the fact that some of those reasons were picked up in the capitalist media in the west isn't particularly relevant as far as I can tell, but maybe you can explain how I'm wrong about that.
(I've got to log off, update software and run an errand, sorry if I don't get back to any response you might post until later.)