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Mary's avatar

Bravo! xoxoxoxo

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Jessica's avatar

Work in and of itself used to have more social value. Both my grandmothers worked outside the home in education--normal career path for a woman of that era. They were able to get the necessary education themselves despite being part of larger families with varying degrees of wealth. The dream of bourgeois feminism was that women could enter different career paths, keep their money, and be seen as valuable contributors in all fields.

Now it's, oh, do we really need teachers? Do we really need engineers? Do we really need workers? There's AI and YouTube, why go into debt just so you can be seen as ChatGPT's little helper? ChatGPT doesn't have a pussy yet, though, just be glad you're not ugly or a man and you have something somebody wants!

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Matt Janovic's avatar

Precisely--try being a man in the midst of an oligarchy. Women at least have these options, as bad as they are. Men's are far and away worse, grimmer.

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Jessica's avatar

the reality is that the woman told she has “something valuable” is supposed to sell it to a self-pitying and hostile man under such a system. without any value to humanity in general the gender wars are pointless

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Yasha Levine's avatar

yeah, no point in arguing who has it better under this kind of system — both men and women are fucked in comparable ways that differ in their particulars.

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Matt Janovic's avatar

Biological determined particulars.

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Matt Janovic's avatar

I think biology is telling us all of this in the end. Agreed on the last point.

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Sunshine's avatar

"Its good to admit the failure of liberal feminism..."

But it is the transition to something else that is a bitch.

In the mid-1970s I was a member of a Leninist/feminist women's group that was attempting to organize female clerical workers in downtown San Francisco since, at that time they did all the real work in most offices--before computerization.

The female leadership consisted of three women, two with working-class jobs and both mothers and the former wife of a prominent economics professor in the Bay Area who was also a mother of two young boys.

I could tell you some amazing "war" stories about this group of beyond liberal feminist women and a few guys. For a divorced male like myself the sex was great, although I did not ever succeed in sleeping my way into a decision-making position!

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Todd's avatar

"Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism by anthropologist Kristen Ghodsee"

Heh! Was wondering if you were going to get to her . . . .

Great minds think alike, eh?

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John caldwell's avatar

Fantastic !

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nigel Thomas's avatar

Great article Evgenia

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agitpapa's avatar

More excellent end-of-empire advice from a back-to-the-future Yeltsin refugee. The good news is that American ladies have something the commies never had: ozempic. So they will make the best of America's postimperial dystopia. OTOH if they want to redpill it and emigrate somewhere happy and wholesome, time to start those Mandarin lessons.

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Peter Murphy's avatar

Social democracy feminism is definitely better than liberal feminism.

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Matt Janovic's avatar

As this is more often the usual state of affairs for the human race under modern civilization, and as this is all biologically driven, and as socialism is never coming back, probably anywhere, for the US and our history, not Russia' self-destructive impulses, this is reversion, at best, for the United States.

We're simply going back to something not unlike the Gilded Age. I agree with a lot of what you write and don't care for the normalization of prostitution in the US again, but that's sadly where we're heading right now.

Seattle, a well known whore town is sliding right back to that past--but it's not Russia's, it's ours, which is how human history works. There are a lot of similarities to Russian and American society that you see in empires. I don't think that, therefore, "our past is your future," it's "our past is becoming our present, again." Your history, however entwined it's been in the past, is not ours.

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