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MTC's avatar

As a Muslim, albeit not a very religious one, I'm not sure whether to feel honored or alarmed to find that I'm also a Noahide? But I'll probably skip appearing before a Rabbinical Court to formalized this understanding. I'll also not be sacrificing any animals despite such sacrifices being nominally a part of both religions. I might make an exception for really high quality lamb, some of the very best of which is raised nearby.

Yasha Levine's avatar

try it out maybe you’ll like your new masters!

MTC's avatar

Maybe I would. I have new masters at home anyway, with wrestling promoters about to be put in charge of public education and accused criminals at the top of the DOJ. It's all good. A situation best served with sacrificial lamb; I assume these animals are eaten as part of the sacrifices as they are in Islamic rituals.

Yasha Levine's avatar

some lamb sounds good right about now I agree.

Nora Connor's avatar

Yasha & Evgenia! I loved this interview. SO fascinating. I wanted to tell you that I have been canvassed on the street in brooklyn by Noahides several times in the last few weeks. Clearly, there's some buildup of that here. They were very young girls (maybe 10 y/o or younger) and at first I thought they were Chabad. They do the "are you jewish" approach! But they have little cards to give out. I don't think they're doing door-to-door but it reminds me of Watchtower, Chabad, 7th Day, but it's to me a new thing in Brooklyn evangelical outreach! I was so excited to know a little bit about it first. Thanks for your work and great interviews.

noramarxx's avatar

This episode is amazing!

Joshua Sklar's avatar

I think I must have read one of her papers at some point. It was honestly quite sad. There's a part where one of the informants says that when she and her community first became Noahides they loved celebrating Shabbat, but then the rabbis took a more active role and forbade it.

I first found out about this on the subreddit r/exjews, which I like to scroll sometimes. (I also look at Haredi news media now and then.) It's worth taking a look at if you're interested in the forms Jewish life is taking in this country.

Joshua Sklar's avatar

(I think it's on borrowed time, even in its more religious forms. The social basis for classical Judaism simply does not exist anymore. It takes extremely strenuous, self-conscious effort to shut out modernity. If the states where these communities exist ever manage to impose real educational standards for secular learning in Yeshivot and day schools it'll be over in a generation or two. That's not to mention the toxic intercommunal and intracommunal dynamics and the fact that their growing size, combined with their economic narrowness, renders them unsustainable.)

Frederick Vondrasek's avatar

...20 years ago the Christian fundamentalists at the Air Force Academy were still of the Jew-hating variety.https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2005/04/acad-a30.html

Frederick Vondrasek's avatar

Messianic Christianity and millenarian thought more generally have a long history at the upper reaches of American military policy. It had to be over twenty years ago now that it came out that USAF officers being trained to operate ICBM sites were being fed fundamentalist Christian rhetoric. Guess it was about 15 years ago...

https://truthout.org/articles/jesus-loves-nukes-air-force-cites-new-testament-exnazi-to-train-officers-on-ethics-of-launching-nuclear-weapons/

Nora Connor's avatar

Yasha & Evgenia! I loved this interview. SO fascinating. I wanted to tell you that I have been canvassed on the street in brooklyn by Noahides several times in the last few weeks. Clearly, there's some buildup of that here. They were very young girls (maybe 10 y/o or younger) and at first I thought they were Chabad. They do the "are you jewish" approach! But they have little cards to give out. I don't think they're doing door-to-door but it reminds me of Watchtower, Chabad, 7th Day, but it's to me a new thing in Brooklyn evangelical outreach! I was so excited to know a little bit about it first. Thanks for your work and great interviews.