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Todd's avatar

I agree because, well, name one modern bourgeois state that hasn't "gotten away with it" when so many other bourgeois states line up behind it. I suspect something decisive will only happen if, like the fascist Axis powers, Israel "veers out of its lane" and pisses off enough those at the top.

(Remember: nothing happened to Franco and his goons until, what, the late 60s/early 70s? And even then it was only a gentle push out of power and >poof!< all the fascist scum miraculously disappear.)

And by the way, Yasha: stop saying crap like this:

"My fellows Jews"

Your "fellow Jews" aren't a monolithic bloc when it comes to Israel. In your post on the history of Zionism, you made an excellent point about its existence:

"This ancient zionism can be ignored or re-interpreted and transferred into an abstracted spiritual realm…but it’s still there, _ready to be used any time_." (emphasis mine)

That this ideological weapon gets grabbed and wielded by (modern, right-wing) Jews from time to time has nothing to do with you (certainly not any more than you want it to be). That the weapon got taken up means it can be set down, taken away, buried, or destroyed. It can also be refused to be shoved into a hand that doesn't want to wield it.

The problem is not religion as such but rather how that particular tool gets used and by whom.

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Joshua Jamesy's avatar

Evil seems to always win no matter what

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